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Topic: Got You On My Mind": questions answered
Posted By: willgalison
Subject: Got You On My Mind": questions answered
Date Posted: April 22 2005 at 11:51am
Dear Friends,

I hope you will check out my rather lengthy post on Higgelty's
topic.
(admin note: I have removed William's note. This not the proper forum for his dispute with Madeleine & her management.)

You can find an accurate (but cautious) account of the
Got You On My Mind controversy, at the JazzPolice.com
website:

http://www.jazzpolice.com/index.php?option=com_content&
task=view&id=5027&Itemid=2

I look forward to hearing your thoughts and answering any
questions you may have on this subject.

Yours truly,


William Galison



Replies:
Posted By: higglety
Date Posted: April 23 2005 at 12:12am
Rich,

If it was you that censored Galison- you really disappoint me, I
thought you were bigger than that.

You say that this is not the proper forum to discuss Galison's
"dispute with madeleine and her management" Did you read
the post? It hardly mentions Madeleine or her management. It
talks about Rounder and Madeleine's lawyers who have
apparently tried to keep us from buying a Madeleine Peyroux
CD. He specifically says that he has no idea what madeleine's
role in this dispute is and speaks respectfully and fondly about
her.

If this is not the forum to discuss this matter, why have there
been far more hits on this subject than any other topic in the
history of this site? Madeleine's fans are more eager to know
about this Cd and the lawsuit than they are to read more praise
about Careless Love from distant lands. We already know that
Careless Love is a great album- tell us something we don't
know. This is a topic that effects us as fans, and could welll
effect madeleine's career if Galison's accusations are accurate.
What other forum do you have in mind?

Why did you become a webmaster in the first place- if not to
generate thoughtful honest discussion? You owe us a better
explanation.

C'mon man. Act like a citizen of the free world! Have a little
respect for the intelligence and judgement of your web-
servants, or whatever you webmasters call us non-webmasters.

Put Galison's letter back on line. He was only answering
questions from Madeleine fans like me.

Higglety

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higglety


Posted By: silverstar
Date Posted: June 23 2005 at 11:23pm
William, although your message was edited by the forum moderator (and I do understand that whoever owns a forum has the right to determine what can be discussed), thank you for making the effort to clear up the situation regarding Got You on My Mind.  Many fans (like me!) have been curious about the album but unable to buy it locally, which was puzzling since Madi's other albums are available in local record shops.  I appreciate your attempt to explain what happened.  Thanks again.


Posted By: saramadi
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 1:04pm
Hhmmm, censorship!

The forum says "disucssion of all things Madeleine".

I guess that means all things that you deem "appropriate".

Cesnoring Galison makes this site nothing but a Madi Gush Site. Certainly Madeleine could have responded to her fans. SO could Rounder. They prefer to say nothing and you decide what other can say.

I won't be back to this site.

Cheers

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Cheers!


Posted By: cornishjazz
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 1:20am

 It seems to me entirely reasonable that the posts of someone who is actively suing you be restricted from your website! I find  it admirable, even astonishing, that any of W. Galison's posts have been permitted here.

Am I alone in finding this topic tedious? Or is it true that conflict is the only entertainment that we get off on these days?



Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 6:04am
Congratulations to cornishjazz for being like the little boy in the Emperors new clothes who said the truth. I returned to this site to see it overun by what appear to be sharks closing in for the kill. And the object of attack? One of the finest artists and people it has ever been my fortune to know. Geoff

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Geoff


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 8:38am
Getting back to why the object of all this attention was so awful the night
I saw her, anybody have any theories? Was it just a bad night, and if so
why did she suck again in Salt Lake? Hunderd bucks worth of tickets
down the drain. Hey, maybe I should sue somebody!


Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 9:15am
A standing ovation would indicate something. Perhaps beauty and music, are in the eye of the beholder.

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Geoff


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 9:39am
No, she sucked. I was there. The standing ovation I can only imagine was
the result of the more reality challenged in the crowd. Half of us were
glued firmly in our seats. Iris Dement did a short opening set that was
honest and endearing. She got a big hand from the crowd and deserved
it. Peyroux benefited from the "...well, it must have been good, she's the
headliner" part of thr audience, I guess.


Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 11:34am
I remember when I first heard Bob Dylan, years ago. My first response was " What IS this?" That was my early response. I went on to collect all his records and attend every concert I could find. Madeleine is not your average singer.But study her more. I think you'll find it worth the effort.

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Geoff


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 11:52am
Wonderful anecdote there, Byron, but this is not about "not getting it".
I dug her record, that's why I was there. I'm simply talking about her
performance that night. Hey, what was that first Dylan song you heard
that you found so offensive? Tell me quick man, I got to run.


Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 12:29pm

Not the song, the way it was sung. I wasn't used to that rough earthy naturalness. ( Times they are a'changin ' by the way) I first heard Madeleine in a small blues club, some years ago.I had never heard of her at all. She was unlike anything I had EVER heard . Music coming from some ethereal deeps,rarely seen.The records are fine , and very beautiful but in person is really a must with her to get the whole picture. What I am saying, and I respect your intelligence or I wouldn't repeat it. Is that there is a great deal going on here and I think that you will get to it in time.The dylan Anecdote was given to illustrate that we can, in time revise our opinions in large ways. I didn't know what I was hearing.......But I found out.



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Geoff


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 2:32pm
Again, the point here is that it WAS the live experience that was
disappointing, which was surprising. You seem like a nice guy. I'm glad
you enjoy her as much as you do. Maybe she'll read this and offer a
private concert to make it up to me. Then I'll find out.


Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 2:46pm
Thanks Doug, you're a nice guy too. And one , like you, who asks questions, eventually gets answers.It would not be unlike Madi to give such a concert, to be honest. Follow up on her story, Doug. It's a wonderful one. A rich addition to my life, I know.

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Geoff


Posted By: willgalison
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 9:33am
Dear Geoff and Doug,

Well, that resolved nicely.

I admire both of your ability to revise your opinions in light of
new information.

I must say Geoff, that it is surprising to see such an open-
minded person endorsing censorship. Without new information,
we can’t revise our opinions.

It makes me wonder if you have followed the progess of this
debate since its beginning.

When Rich Hansen put up Madeleine’s website in 2003, it
listed many of the dozens of gigs she played with me, reviews
and photos of these concerts, and reviews of “Got You On My
Mind’. It even offered GYOMM for sale. After Rounder took over
the site there followed a long period where any mention of the
album “Got You On My Mind” or the name “William Galison”
were strictly forbidden on this site. This ban started well before
any legal action was taken in my part, but after Madeleine's
lawyer and Rounder had threatened to sue me and my
business colleagues on false accusations of copyright
infringement. (accusations they later admitted were false).

The problem with denying the existence of me or GYOMM, was
that many of the thousands of fans who were enjoying the
album were baffled, frustrated and insulted that they could not
discuss GYOMM, or the shows I played with Maderleine .

As I understand it, it was Madeleine’s fans who convinced
whoever was in charge of the site (?) that censoring any
mention of GYOMM and WG would be perceived at best as
meanspirited and hypocritical and at worst as implicative of
foulplay.

All of my postings have been in direct response to questions by
Madeleine's fans. except my last postings which were in
response to postings by "smooth". “smooth”, who has a direct
personal interest in this subject, expressed her opinion that
GYOMM and the efforts to destroy it were not worthy subjects
for the forum, and i expressed mine. No one was the worse off
for that spirited exchange. More generally, if you think that
postings not directly complimentary of Madeleine’s music or
behavior should be censored, certainly you would want Doug’s
postings forbidden. That would be a big loss, because Madi
can learn from his comments.

Geoff, your comparison of recent postings to “sharks closing in
for the kill” is inappropriate on several counts. For one thing,
the fans that wrote them don’t have anything to do with each
other, as far as I know. More importantly, I don’t think anyone
here is bearing personal malice towards Madeleine.

For my part, my lawsuit is primarily directed at Rounder
Records and Jeffery Greenberg. Together, these two drafted a
contract that misrepresented the ownership of GYOMM and
made Madeleine responsible for any financial damages to
Rounder caused by this misrepresentation- which are
substantial.

Even Greenberg, Madeleine and Rounder admit that
SOMEBODY falsely told Rounder that Madeleine was the sole
owner of GYOMM. The question is: did Madi lie to a naive
Greenberg? Did Greenberg encourage Madeleine to lie to
Rounder? Or did Rounder, Greenberg and Madeleine’s
manager Cynthia Herbst come up with a plan to crush GYOMM
and and make Madi the fall guy if they got caught?

Likewise, in the libel case, Greenberg unquestionably
published outrageously false and damaging statements about
me. The question there is; did Madeleine give Greenberg false
information, or did Greenberg encourage Madi to lie in order to
intimidate me into surrendering GYOMM and to get her out of
her agreement to tour GYOMM with me?

This wi


Posted By: cornishjazz
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 10:47am

Dear William,

It seems clear that you are keen to publicise GYOMM and that you have realised that frequent postings here will achieve a high number of sales.... no one can blame you for that.

It does seem, however, that you are desperately  "hanging on her coattails" (quote from your e-mail to the Valley Advocate to which you held exception) and intent to wring as much cash from this as possible rather than relying on your own (considerable talents) with which to make your way in the world.

I don't even want to get into the discrepancies which appear in the differing accounts of this dispute which are linked to from the many posts here on this subject (investment of $15000 or was it $80,000 etc. etc.). I would merely contrast your actions with the actions of the 'Lost and Wandering Blues and Jazz Band' guys who, despite owning 2 albums with considerable content from Madeleine Peyroux, make no attempt to capitalise on this but are content to carry on busking their way around the world. - I saw them on the street in Copenhagen back in January and they were happily playing street pitches and selling an occasional CD (their latest, not the ones featuring Madeleine).

You may profit financially form the Brou-ha-ha you seem intent on causing both here and in court but at what cost to you inside? I hope you don't end up bitter and twisted by it because it seems to me it might be a whole lot easier on you if you just agreed a modest out of court settlement and resumed your career.

Anyway, I know it's none of my affair so I'll end with wishing you well. I hope you don't mind if I don't respond to any further postings from you but as I said in my earlier post (or words to that effect) I feel that this topic has run and run and deserves to be laid to rest.

Best wishes for the future

Brian 



Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 12:20pm
Dear William, I have read your long letter with interest.I do not favor censorship.But I do give my personal opinion, which agrees with 'Cornishjazz' that this forum is a poor place to conduct , in effect, a courtroom scene.I always liked the bible quote that things should be done 'decently and in order' meaning that there is a place and time for everything but things do not mix well, helter-skelter. I know you are struggling, as we all are, to make sense out of your life. Things do not always tie up in neat packages, as all this is proving.I hope the actual courtroom scene, if there is one, can come at a truth as effective as Solomon's when he discovered thr true mother of the baby.Sometimes the truth is just that simple to come by.I would certainly wish , for both of you,that this could be settled quickly and fairly, by both your standards.I think very highly of Madeleine and I know you must be a special person, or she would not have cared for you as deeply as she has . Geoff

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Geoff


Posted By: willgalison
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 12:35pm
Dear Brian,

Thanks for addressing real issues.

Regarding publicity, of course i want to sell records, for my
sake and Madi's and for the people who seem to be enjoying
our CD. The sales I receive from visitors to this site are trivial
compared to the total, so publicity is not my main reason for
posting on this forum. I have made my reasons clear in other
postings.

As far as hanging on to Madeleine's coat-tails, I must disagree.
Since recording GYOMM, I have recorded with stars such as
Barbra Streisand and Carly Simon, who far exceed Madeleine
in terms of popularity and prestige. Rest assured that my music
career is beginning to flourish again without Madeleine,
despite the huge legal costs, work and stress required to clear
my name and sell our CD over the past two years.

Insofar as I am proud to be the producer of GYOMM and co-
artist, I will continue to try to sell it, and to the extent that
Madeleine's contribution helps, that's wonderful, and she will
be compensated. Rounder, of course, has invested untold
money and effort (not to mention malice and deceipt) into
exploiting Madelein'e talent for their own gain. At least I didn't
step on anybody anybody to sell GYOMM.

I do intend to "wring as much cash" from GYOMM as possible,
because I am a professional musician (who has been forced to
be a record company too) who earns my living that way. I
offered Rounder the opportunity to wring cash out of GYOMM
but they declined. I don't know what you do for a living, but I
imagine you try to wring as much cash from it as you can. I also
imagine that if someone tried to cheat you put of your income
by accusing you of crimes, you would defend yourself with as
much fervor as I.

I know the "Lost and wondering Blues and Jazz Band" well,
and played with Danny Fitzgerald (the founder of the group) on
the streets of Paris when Madi was four years old. The problem
with your comparison is that (as far as i know) Rounder and
Greenberg didn't threaten the LAWBJB with criminal charges if
they sold their CD's featuring Madi, or with physical abuse for
that matter.

Another diffference is that GYOMM is a stereophile quality CD
with New York's top musicians that has licensing requests from
all over the world and sterling reviews from the top jazz
magazines, whereas Danny';s CD, as charming as it is, is
simply not threatening to Rounder.

I love Danny, but if you know him at all, you will know that he
among the world's greatest hustlers and would exploit his
connection wiith Madi for every penny it's worth if he could. As
well he has the right to- he practically raised Madi and taught
her much of what she knows.

Also, I am no longer a busker. I have a high rent and many
expenses to meet. I do not sell my CD's on the street. If I did,
Rounder would not have tried to squash me.

Re: your other comments:

-$15000 was about what I spent on the original seven song
version of GYOMM with provisional mixes and mastering.

-$80,000 is about what I spent on the 11 song CD including
state of the art mixing and mastering, packaging, printing,
promotion etc. The number is actually higher now.

All will be officially accounted for.

-The "cost" of this legal battle is high, but I didn't start it, and the
cost of giving on to these bullies would be higher.

-I was already bitter and twisted before this whole Bruhaha, but
I appreciate your concern on this point.

-I offered Madi, Greenberg and Rounder a modest out of court
settlement on two oc


Posted By: willgalison
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 12:59pm
Dear Goeff,

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. If the parties in this dispute
were all men and women of good good will, with an honest
difference of opinion, then your suggestion would be right on.

Unfortunately, I am out lawyered, out publicized, and out
funded by about a million to one. So like David, who slew
Goliath with a slingshot, i am using the tools at hand to defend
myself and the rights of other musicians and indie labels.

One of the tools at hand is this forum.

By the way, I had no idea that you all were struggling to make
sense out of my life. Let me know if you make any headway.
(wink!)

And thanks for acknowledging Madi's appreciation of me- its
nice to hear.

Best,


William


Posted By: willgalison
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 1:00pm
PS: Do you guys work as a team?


Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 2:24pm
 Thank you William.No teamwork here. just synchronicity.Think for a ,moment though. Would you as David slay Goliath with Madi riding on his shoulder? Would Madi slay you wantonly? That is the problem of war.( And court is often like war)  Everyone gets slain.You just wrote a good, thoughtful, protest song about war.Don't be another proof of why it goes on. I don't say this in an empty pointless way. I believe there is somehow a way out of this that will save you both pain and later remorse.If you are going to try this here. Be willing to consider advice from those of us who love music and art and put the value of it way above money and power and things. You both need to look into your hearts. Let the buck stop here.Isn't that, after all, what you are both about? Making some sense for a world that so sorely needs it? Geoff

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Geoff


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 2:50pm
Hey William,      Here's some advice from someone who loves music and
art AND knows it's ultimately worth more than money or power AND is
about to put two kids through college. If there's money owed you, go for
the jugular. You can be sure Rounder Records would. Brian and Geoff, I
wonder how above it all you'd be if you were getting screwed.


Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 3:04pm
 Hah, You've got a lot of fight in you Doug. But believe me. I've been through all you speak of and more and still speak as I speak.These are the rules that ultimately work. Strangely enough the money and other things often follow. but if we don't get our heads right, there is no victory.

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Geoff


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 3:27pm
What are you, the Dali Lama? Peace, Geoff.


Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 5:04pm

Thanks for the compliment. You're closer than you think. I was raised a quaker. Attended the meeting at Easton where the Quakers of the French and Indian war period were attacked as they met one Sunday.The Indians entered and saw that the Quakers left their hunting rifles in the corner instead of defending themselves with  them. The Indians spared the Friends realizing they were 'worshiping the same great spirit the indians worshipped' Those early influences last a person. later befriended people like Pete seeger who has always fought the fight for reason in this world. There is a lot to fight for to insure the future safety of our kids , as you say, that  we  are sending to college now, and in the near future. .Around us is A bigger world with its own agendas. Sometimes secret ones where some are willing to use our kids as cannon fodder.Lets fight against those dangers,  Not each other. The friends used to meet when members were in crisis and try to find answers for the disputes.They Would look inward for ideas that would "speak to the condition of the confused parties" Maybe a little of that method could help here.It wouldn't hurt those of us who are interested in the fate of these two gifted people to look for the real ways of giving them support. What a waste of creative energy.So what about it.If we're going to witness all this perhaps we can find a way to " speak to their condition. " I don't think it would be a waste of our time..Geoff



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Geoff


Posted By: litejava
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 7:07pm

 First encountered Madi's music thru an eighty year old patron of a coffee house where I sing and play.He loaned me the first two cds,and I bought the last one.They are a pleasure to listen to.I was impressed with the guitar work and harp on GYOMM.Will has no need to ride anyone's coattails.Choice of music on all three cd's gives careful consideration to striking a broad audience.I am hoping that her tours follow a more southerly route in the near future so I can see a live performance.According to my eighty year old friend,GYOMM is available at Barnes and Nobles in Florida.Recently another upcoming siger/songwriter(I want to say Bonham was the last name but I am so bad with names and not really current on what's current) produced her own album,and gave a lenghy interview on the high points of controlling her own sound.The reasons have much to do about having a say in what you play.BTW,there are many buskers all over the streets that can give you the ins and outs of playing a handful of mass produced hits over and over to ring up someones regester versus playing what they want to play on a street corner.A decade of playing both in and out of clubs in New Orleans leads me to believe that many of the people playing out there do it by choice,not because they can't find a stage  ( anyone here familer with Roslyn and David? )Best of luck on your lawsuit Will.At least your cd is available in this area.



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litejava


Posted By: willgalison
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 10:51pm
Thanks Litejava,

I spent some of the best years of my life playing on the street
(as did Madi) and I have the highest regard for those who do.

Best of luck to you too,

William


Posted By: willgalison
Date Posted: July 01 2005 at 6:44pm
Dear Geoff,

I wanted to answer your post before going away for the
weekend.

You see what a great conversation you would be missing if I
had been censored?

I'll try to answer your thought-provoking questions:

-As David, I would ask Madi to get down off Goliath’s shoulder.
(What the heck is she doing up there anyway?)

Then I would aim very carefully (I’d be David after all) and smite
Goliath right between the eyes while yelling "Jump, Madi!!!”. If
Madi jumped I would catch her (I’m assuming Goliath is about
15 ft tall in sandals). If Goliath landed on top of Madi, I would try
to get her out. Then I would have a long talk with her about
riding around on evil giants, and we would be friends.

I certainly wouldn’t let Goliath smite me and let him have his
wicked way with Madi.

-Would Madi slay me wantonly? I hope not. You’d have to ask
her that one, but I’m not picking up a powerful love-vibe from
her direction these days.

Sorry to repeat myself, but I tried every way I could think of to
resolve this matter amicably, short of laying over a barrell and
thinking of England. There can be no concilliation without
communication, and I have been threatened with restraining
orders if I try to contact Madi, her colleagues or Rounder in any
way. (Of course, if they had any grounds to get restraining
orders against me, they would have gotten them, but they don’t-
so they threaten.) On the other hand, Madi, her colleagues and
Rounder are welcome to contact me any time at all.

I completely share your desire for peace and tranquility, but
there are times when a person has to stand up for what’s right.
If the original David had asked Goliath for a hug instead of
clocking him, he would have been been squashed flatter than a
latke and we would all be worshipping Baal. If George
Washington had merely looked into his heart, we would be all
be going to work on Monday, among other things. Ditto FDR
and Churchill. Even Ghandi and MLK didn’t advocate taking it
up the caboose.

Keep in mind that I am not smiting anybody with a slingshot or
any other weapon. I am using the courts, which is the civilized
way of resolving conflict in this society. Civil court is actually
quite unlike war - for example nobody gets blown to bits and no
cities get leveled in court. In fact, courts exist precisely so that
wars won’t have to. Powerful corporations, lawyers,
governments and people who abuse their power need to be
reigned in, and punished if necessary (for the protection of us
AND our kids), and court is where that happpens. But court
does suck, and if the court of public opinion serves to embarass
(or enlighten) Rounder and Greenberg into settling before they
face a jury, that would fine with me. What better path to
resolution do you suggest? Before you answer that, make an
effort to learn the facts of this situation. Its easy to claim that
every conflict has two sides, but only a fool would say that
those sides are always symmetrical.

If you are a friend of Madi, as you seem to be, see if you can
talk her down from Goliath’s shoulders. The big dude is going
down hard and I sincerely don’t want Madi getting squashed.

But even if she does, she will survive and she will learn a great
lesson about integrity and power and she will be a better
person for it. If she and Goliath prevail, all of us will be the
worse for it- even Madi and Goliath.

That’s the way i see it.

best,


William

By the way, what ever happened to those Indians who<


Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: July 02 2005 at 6:56am
 Dear William , Not many Quakers around either, which is actually part of my point. My father, when he was alive, and I worked with a couple of Indian Chiefs to save a Sacred Indian burial Mound in NY state, that was about to be used as road bed. Won the case. If there had been a lot more Quakers, I'm sure there would be a lot more Indians left. In retelling the david and Goliath story I don't actually see either you or Madi as such characters. My point was, you should not be out for each others throats. ( And I don't actually believe either of you are) With lots of thought and effort there is a solution to any problem.You are both important artists and need to get this over and on to other things. Remember the Solomon parable I quoted. The baby cut in half is a dead baby. Find some way for all your creative efforts to survive with dignity. I think however, that I  agree with Brian that all this should taper off on this artist site. I will follow your thoughts on another site, with interest. Geoff

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Geoff


Posted By: willgalison
Date Posted: July 02 2005 at 8:53am
Two women came before King Solomon.

One woman (the true mother) said, "My lord, this woman and I
dwell in the same house and I gave birth to a child while she
was in the house. On the third day after I gave birth she also
gave birth… This woman's child died during the night because
she lay on him. She arose during the night and took my son
from my side while I slept, laid him on her bosom and laid her
dead child on my bosom. When I rose in the morning to nurse
my son, behold, he was dead! But when I observed him in the
morning, I realized that he was not my son to whom I had given
birth."
The other woman replied, "It is not so! My son is the live one
and your son is the dead one."
King Solomon briefly reiterated their arguments and ordered,
"Bring me a sword." The King then said, "Cut the living child in
two, and give half to one and half to the other."
The woman who claimed that her son was stolen from her said,
"Please, my lord, give her the living child and do not kill it."
But the other woman said, "Neither mine nor yours shall he be.
Cut!"
The king spoke up and said, "Give the first woman the living
child and do not kill it; for she is his mother."

I assume you evoke this Biblical parable because you feel it is
analogous to the situation with GYOMM.

Its not a perfect analogy but let's take a crack at it.

Madi and i are the two women (so to speak). GYOMM is the
baby. Madi (through her lawyer) claimed that GYOMM
belonged to her alone and i (and US copyright law) objected,
saying it belonged to both of us.

Madi (or at least Rounder, Greenberg and Herbst who
represent her) apparently wants GYOMM dead, (Madi is suing
me for a million bucks for selling it) and I want it to live. I would
bet Solomon would give the CD to me and tell the others to
take a hike. I am proposing that Madi and i share the praise
and the profits this CD is generating.

What would the Quakers say? Rather than just banning the
subject from discussion, please give us some advice to Madi
and I as to what we should do to resolve this. If this topic had
been banned, we wouldn't benefit from your insight.

Question: would YOU like to see GYOMM incinerated? If not,
please contact Ken Irwin at Rounder Records. If Irwin would
scribble his intials on a note reading "pay this asshole for the
trouble we caused him and let him sell the damn CD", then
Madi, Herbst, and Greenberg would stop harrassing me, and
"CornishJazz" and you would never be annoyed by another
one of my endless postings.

I'll tell you one thing, if Pete Seeger (who I played with on
several occasions long ago) weren't so old, he would be
holding a rally in front of Rounder headquarters. He cares
deeply about justice, corporate corruption and hypocricy. If
Rounder and Greenberg get away with destroying GYOMM,
Waking Up Music and my reputation, their tactics will become
a blueprint for every greedy, thuggish, record company that
wants to eliminate smaller companies and artists from the
competition.

STEP 1- Falsely claim you own the competing CD

STEP 2- Threaten to sue any company that licenses or
distributes the CD based on above false claim.

STEP 3- Tell journalists and retailers such as Borders and
Barnes and Nobles.com that CD is illegal and an inferior
"demo".

STEP 4- Falsely accuse the artist of abuse so as to put his
reputation at risk if he takes you to court for above meritless
threats and allegations.

STEP 5- If artist calls your bluff, provide affidavit to Federal
J


Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: July 02 2005 at 10:20am
 Hello William, The 'child' I am referring to here is the creative self of both of you which suffers from a fight. This is very complex for both of you and must be very painful. If there proves no choice but a courtroom fight, all the more reason not to try it outside the courtroom.I have , all along hoped some simpler solution might come forward. It still may, but it takes thinking and intention , aimed in that direction..I wish I had the solution. But I believe there is one.I support you both in moving toward that light. Geoff 

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Geoff


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 5:42am
Geoff, you nut. Haven't you run out of cheeks yet? William, you
must be sick and tired of making sense, Well, I'm off to Kauai to
refuel. Aloha


Posted By: Byron
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 7:07am

  Dear Doug, William etc. If it were still possible, which perhaps it is, some form of professional arbitration would be better than a prolonged courtroom mess. One thing is certain, William's arguments, sensible or not, are very familiar and known to all who have looked at this site. I can't imagine why he would want to continue re-stating them. His idea of moving it all to another site is a good one. I know that most people who come to this site would enjoy talking about , for example, Madeleines singing as compared to Billie Holiday or things of that nature ,to this, every day.I do agree with you, Doug, that someone looking for a more peaceful solution to strife in this present world, is likely to be deemed a 'nut'. Geoff



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Geoff



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