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  Quote doug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 11:52am
Wonderful anecdote there, Byron, but this is not about "not getting it".
I dug her record, that's why I was there. I'm simply talking about her
performance that night. Hey, what was that first Dylan song you heard
that you found so offensive? Tell me quick man, I got to run.
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  Quote Byron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 12:29pm

Not the song, the way it was sung. I wasn't used to that rough earthy naturalness. ( Times they are a'changin ' by the way) I first heard Madeleine in a small blues club, some years ago.I had never heard of her at all. She was unlike anything I had EVER heard . Music coming from some ethereal deeps,rarely seen.The records are fine , and very beautiful but in person is really a must with her to get the whole picture. What I am saying, and I respect your intelligence or I wouldn't repeat it. Is that there is a great deal going on here and I think that you will get to it in time.The dylan Anecdote was given to illustrate that we can, in time revise our opinions in large ways. I didn't know what I was hearing.......But I found out.



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  Quote doug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 2:32pm
Again, the point here is that it WAS the live experience that was
disappointing, which was surprising. You seem like a nice guy. I'm glad
you enjoy her as much as you do. Maybe she'll read this and offer a
private concert to make it up to me. Then I'll find out.
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  Quote Byron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 2:46pm
Thanks Doug, you're a nice guy too. And one , like you, who asks questions, eventually gets answers.It would not be unlike Madi to give such a concert, to be honest. Follow up on her story, Doug. It's a wonderful one. A rich addition to my life, I know.
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  Quote willgalison Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 9:33am
Dear Geoff and Doug,

Well, that resolved nicely.

I admire both of your ability to revise your opinions in light of
new information.

I must say Geoff, that it is surprising to see such an open-
minded person endorsing censorship. Without new information,
we can’t revise our opinions.

It makes me wonder if you have followed the progess of this
debate since its beginning.

When Rich Hansen put up Madeleine’s website in 2003, it
listed many of the dozens of gigs she played with me, reviews
and photos of these concerts, and reviews of “Got You On My
Mind’. It even offered GYOMM for sale. After Rounder took over
the site there followed a long period where any mention of the
album “Got You On My Mind” or the name “William Galison”
were strictly forbidden on this site. This ban started well before
any legal action was taken in my part, but after Madeleine's
lawyer and Rounder had threatened to sue me and my
business colleagues on false accusations of copyright
infringement. (accusations they later admitted were false).

The problem with denying the existence of me or GYOMM, was
that many of the thousands of fans who were enjoying the
album were baffled, frustrated and insulted that they could not
discuss GYOMM, or the shows I played with Maderleine .

As I understand it, it was Madeleine’s fans who convinced
whoever was in charge of the site (?) that censoring any
mention of GYOMM and WG would be perceived at best as
meanspirited and hypocritical and at worst as implicative of
foulplay.

All of my postings have been in direct response to questions by
Madeleine's fans. except my last postings which were in
response to postings by "smooth". “smooth”, who has a direct
personal interest in this subject, expressed her opinion that
GYOMM and the efforts to destroy it were not worthy subjects
for the forum, and i expressed mine. No one was the worse off
for that spirited exchange. More generally, if you think that
postings not directly complimentary of Madeleine’s music or
behavior should be censored, certainly you would want Doug’s
postings forbidden. That would be a big loss, because Madi
can learn from his comments.

Geoff, your comparison of recent postings to “sharks closing in
for the kill” is inappropriate on several counts. For one thing,
the fans that wrote them don’t have anything to do with each
other, as far as I know. More importantly, I don’t think anyone
here is bearing personal malice towards Madeleine.

For my part, my lawsuit is primarily directed at Rounder
Records and Jeffery Greenberg. Together, these two drafted a
contract that misrepresented the ownership of GYOMM and
made Madeleine responsible for any financial damages to
Rounder caused by this misrepresentation- which are
substantial.

Even Greenberg, Madeleine and Rounder admit that
SOMEBODY falsely told Rounder that Madeleine was the sole
owner of GYOMM. The question is: did Madi lie to a naive
Greenberg? Did Greenberg encourage Madeleine to lie to
Rounder? Or did Rounder, Greenberg and Madeleine’s
manager Cynthia Herbst come up with a plan to crush GYOMM
and and make Madi the fall guy if they got caught?

Likewise, in the libel case, Greenberg unquestionably
published outrageously false and damaging statements about
me. The question there is; did Madeleine give Greenberg false
information, or did Greenberg encourage Madi to lie in order to
intimidate me into surrendering GYOMM and to get her out of
her agreement to tour GYOMM with me?

This wi
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  Quote cornishjazz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 10:47am

Dear William,

It seems clear that you are keen to publicise GYOMM and that you have realised that frequent postings here will achieve a high number of sales.... no one can blame you for that.

It does seem, however, that you are desperately  "hanging on her coattails" (quote from your e-mail to the Valley Advocate to which you held exception) and intent to wring as much cash from this as possible rather than relying on your own (considerable talents) with which to make your way in the world.

I don't even want to get into the discrepancies which appear in the differing accounts of this dispute which are linked to from the many posts here on this subject (investment of $15000 or was it $80,000 etc. etc.). I would merely contrast your actions with the actions of the 'Lost and Wandering Blues and Jazz Band' guys who, despite owning 2 albums with considerable content from Madeleine Peyroux, make no attempt to capitalise on this but are content to carry on busking their way around the world. - I saw them on the street in Copenhagen back in January and they were happily playing street pitches and selling an occasional CD (their latest, not the ones featuring Madeleine).

You may profit financially form the Brou-ha-ha you seem intent on causing both here and in court but at what cost to you inside? I hope you don't end up bitter and twisted by it because it seems to me it might be a whole lot easier on you if you just agreed a modest out of court settlement and resumed your career.

Anyway, I know it's none of my affair so I'll end with wishing you well. I hope you don't mind if I don't respond to any further postings from you but as I said in my earlier post (or words to that effect) I feel that this topic has run and run and deserves to be laid to rest.

Best wishes for the future

Brian 

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  Quote Byron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 12:20pm
Dear William, I have read your long letter with interest.I do not favor censorship.But I do give my personal opinion, which agrees with 'Cornishjazz' that this forum is a poor place to conduct , in effect, a courtroom scene.I always liked the bible quote that things should be done 'decently and in order' meaning that there is a place and time for everything but things do not mix well, helter-skelter. I know you are struggling, as we all are, to make sense out of your life. Things do not always tie up in neat packages, as all this is proving.I hope the actual courtroom scene, if there is one, can come at a truth as effective as Solomon's when he discovered thr true mother of the baby.Sometimes the truth is just that simple to come by.I would certainly wish , for both of you,that this could be settled quickly and fairly, by both your standards.I think very highly of Madeleine and I know you must be a special person, or she would not have cared for you as deeply as she has . Geoff
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  Quote willgalison Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 12:35pm
Dear Brian,

Thanks for addressing real issues.

Regarding publicity, of course i want to sell records, for my
sake and Madi's and for the people who seem to be enjoying
our CD. The sales I receive from visitors to this site are trivial
compared to the total, so publicity is not my main reason for
posting on this forum. I have made my reasons clear in other
postings.

As far as hanging on to Madeleine's coat-tails, I must disagree.
Since recording GYOMM, I have recorded with stars such as
Barbra Streisand and Carly Simon, who far exceed Madeleine
in terms of popularity and prestige. Rest assured that my music
career is beginning to flourish again without Madeleine,
despite the huge legal costs, work and stress required to clear
my name and sell our CD over the past two years.

Insofar as I am proud to be the producer of GYOMM and co-
artist, I will continue to try to sell it, and to the extent that
Madeleine's contribution helps, that's wonderful, and she will
be compensated. Rounder, of course, has invested untold
money and effort (not to mention malice and deceipt) into
exploiting Madelein'e talent for their own gain. At least I didn't
step on anybody anybody to sell GYOMM.

I do intend to "wring as much cash" from GYOMM as possible,
because I am a professional musician (who has been forced to
be a record company too) who earns my living that way. I
offered Rounder the opportunity to wring cash out of GYOMM
but they declined. I don't know what you do for a living, but I
imagine you try to wring as much cash from it as you can. I also
imagine that if someone tried to cheat you put of your income
by accusing you of crimes, you would defend yourself with as
much fervor as I.

I know the "Lost and wondering Blues and Jazz Band" well,
and played with Danny Fitzgerald (the founder of the group) on
the streets of Paris when Madi was four years old. The problem
with your comparison is that (as far as i know) Rounder and
Greenberg didn't threaten the LAWBJB with criminal charges if
they sold their CD's featuring Madi, or with physical abuse for
that matter.

Another diffference is that GYOMM is a stereophile quality CD
with New York's top musicians that has licensing requests from
all over the world and sterling reviews from the top jazz
magazines, whereas Danny';s CD, as charming as it is, is
simply not threatening to Rounder.

I love Danny, but if you know him at all, you will know that he
among the world's greatest hustlers and would exploit his
connection wiith Madi for every penny it's worth if he could. As
well he has the right to- he practically raised Madi and taught
her much of what she knows.

Also, I am no longer a busker. I have a high rent and many
expenses to meet. I do not sell my CD's on the street. If I did,
Rounder would not have tried to squash me.

Re: your other comments:

-$15000 was about what I spent on the original seven song
version of GYOMM with provisional mixes and mastering.

-$80,000 is about what I spent on the 11 song CD including
state of the art mixing and mastering, packaging, printing,
promotion etc. The number is actually higher now.

All will be officially accounted for.

-The "cost" of this legal battle is high, but I didn't start it, and the
cost of giving on to these bullies would be higher.

-I was already bitter and twisted before this whole Bruhaha, but
I appreciate your concern on this point.

-I offered Madi, Greenberg and Rounder a modest out of court
settlement on two oc
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  Quote willgalison Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 12:59pm
Dear Goeff,

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. If the parties in this dispute
were all men and women of good good will, with an honest
difference of opinion, then your suggestion would be right on.

Unfortunately, I am out lawyered, out publicized, and out
funded by about a million to one. So like David, who slew
Goliath with a slingshot, i am using the tools at hand to defend
myself and the rights of other musicians and indie labels.

One of the tools at hand is this forum.

By the way, I had no idea that you all were struggling to make
sense out of my life. Let me know if you make any headway.
(wink!)

And thanks for acknowledging Madi's appreciation of me- its
nice to hear.

Best,


William
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  Quote willgalison Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 1:00pm
PS: Do you guys work as a team?
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