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Sebastian
Senior Member Joined: July 25 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
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Topic: Live versus Recorded Posted: December 25 2006 at 3:51pm |
I love Madeleine's live performances.
I have seen her perform in Europe several times now. Each time has been a revelation and sublime in every way. I recognise some of traits which seem to disappoint some of you. Sometimes she does not sound like the recording with the CD. For me this is just fine. Sometimes she sounds less polished - there is rawness to her peformance, which gives it an edge. Each time, however, her voice has been captivating and enthralls me. I do not go to live performances for a celuloid, synthetic reproduction of what I can listen to at home. I go for something live and organic. Nor do I go to see a diva performance which is more about the cosmetic appearance, the slick well rehearsed patter. I would admit that sometimes Madeleine seems a little awkward and would also agree that she perhaps suits smaller venues better. However, ultimately I really do love seeing her live. Perhaps I have lower expectations or demands than others, I'd like to think not. I think it is more a case as one forum member put it once, sinking in and allowing myself to enjoy the moment. It is curious to see that reviews of the same perfomances of Madeleine's can be quite different. See the reviews for her recent Edingburgh show. I have enjoyed reading all your views of Madeleine's performances. Keep them coming in. I hope you continue to enjoy Madeleine whether in the comfort of your own living room or live. Happy Christmas - Seb |
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saramadi
Groupie Joined: June 14 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 46 |
Quote Reply Posted: December 20 2006 at 8:19pm |
Some have liked Madi concerts. More haven't. Everyone save a few (no names mentioned) loves her CDs.
Has anyone ever said she sounded better in concert than she does on her sublime CDs? Even when I loved her performance in 1997 at the Montreal Jazz Fest, I didn't think it was as good as that first CD. |
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RichardS
Senior Member Joined: April 20 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
Quote Reply Posted: December 19 2006 at 3:01pm |
Kobe
Both are small(ish) concert halls - the Sage 1700 seats, the Barbican 1950. |
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kobe
Senior Member Joined: April 04 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 46 |
Quote Reply Posted: December 19 2006 at 2:05pm |
Hello Richard, I think pinning her picture on the wall and playing her CD's is a great idea whether I go to the concerts or not. I have a couple of her pictures on my computer as random screen savers. What kind of venues are the Sage Gatehead and the Barbican. Are they smaller concert halls, Clubs or small country sized concert venues where starscopes are needed to see the stage? I am of the belief that she is more comfortable in a smaller venue. Thanx for the insight. - Kobe |
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RichardS
Senior Member Joined: April 20 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
Quote Reply Posted: December 17 2006 at 4:07am |
I have read the discussion of Live versus Recorded with interest, unable to
add anything to the argument as I had not seen Madeleine live. In the past week I have seen Madeleine's performances at the Sage Gateshead (on the 12th) and the next day at the Barbican in London. Both were excellent! Madeleine's voice was superb, song selection good and delivery excellent. In-between chat was limited but friendly. Although a somewhat tentative start , particularly at Gateshead, she soon relaxed and gave a confident performance both nights, clearly enjoying herself as were the group - they all linked arms to take the bows at the end of the Gateshead concert. At Gateshead I was front row centre and so was close enough to see Madeleine's facial expressions (OK - occasionally she does appear to look fed up but it was clear that she was happy to be there). I think with Madeleine what you see is what you get. There is no pretence, false stage manners or fake smiles. Whether you enjoy a concert depends on a number of things, not just the performance - the venue, where you are sitting, even the day you have had, will all have an effect. I don't want to go to a live concert to see some over produced glossy performance and hear a simple regurgitation of the CDs. One reason for going to a live performance is to hear the performer add something to the songs - this may mean that you do not get perfection, but you hear things in the songs that you may not have noticed and makes you go back to the originals to listen anew. If you want to hear Madeleine sing the songs as they sound on the recorded versions - pin her picture on the wall and play the cds. I however cannot wait to see her again when she returns to the UK. |
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Woenie
New Member Joined: December 03 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1 |
Quote Reply Posted: December 03 2006 at 2:07am |
yesterday, madeleine was in holland. The conert was short, and her voice sounds the same all te time. After 3 songs, it's getting boring. so, i rather listen to the CD. the band was great! |
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Jim Rosenthal
New Member Joined: November 27 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2 |
Quote Reply Posted: November 28 2006 at 2:22am |
Maybe I was lucky. Not all the feedback from the DC concert was favorable, I think. I thought, however, that it was terrific. FWIW, I have friends who saw several of the same artists (inc Coltrane) and complained that they felt that their performance was "mailed in". Today we might say "faxed in". I guess everyone can have an off night. Miles Davis said two words at the end of the gig: "Thank you". I heard later that for him that amounted to an oration. Has anyone heard any of Sam Yahel's own CDs and do they have any recommendations? or his stuff with Joshua Redman? just curious. Edited by Jim Rosenthal |
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RonJon
New Member Joined: October 02 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Quote Reply Posted: November 27 2006 at 12:00pm |
I understand what you're saying Jim about perfection not being the ideal. Like you I've seen Miles, Getz, Coltrane & the like...the big difference is that none of them attempted the awkward between song repartee...either because they weren't comfortable or in Miles case, he didn't give a damn. Either reason was just fine with me, because it was impossible to be distracted from the genius of their art. Unfortunately the same can not be said of M P. Passion in playing? Not in Portland, I'm siding with the other post that pointed out that it looked like she was trying to fulfill a contractual obligation. Passion is not that difficult to witness.
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Jim Rosenthal
New Member Joined: November 27 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2 |
Quote Reply Posted: November 27 2006 at 10:58am |
I saw the DC concert recently. Evidently starting late is not unusual; there was a 45 min gap between the warmup act, Phil Roy, who was terrible, and Madeleine's set. So the audience was in an irritable mood when she started singing. Thirty seconds into the opening number, none of it mattered. The last artist I remember who kept us all waiting that long was Miles Davis, and thirty seconds into his first set none of it mattered, either. Does she occasionally miss a note? Sure- so did Miles, so did Stan Getz, so did Coltrane. Is her stage presence a bit awkward? Sometimes- clearly she'd rather sing than talk. Fine- I'd rather she sing, too. Her weight? This isn't the Playboy Channel. There's no shortage of women "singers" who are pinup girls. All of them together don't even come close to adding up to one Madeleine. I have been fortunate enough to have seen a few artists live who could make time stand still- Miles, Chick Corea and RTF, Brubeck (believe it or not!), Danny Gatton. All of them had at least this one common quality: passion in their playing, as well as great chops and impeccable taste in what they did. None of them were free of occasional mistakes, which made what they did even greater. You would expect a god to play perfectly. You would expect one of us to be- well, one of us. When I am lucky enough to find a great and highly individual artist, in any field, I am glad I am alive to have the experience. For an hour and a half in Washington, time stood still again, as I listened to Madeleine Peyroux. Count yourself lucky that you have heard her perform, and that she's young and will be around a long time. With all the processed and canned material passed off as music around, she is something different; the genuine article, the real thing, a real person like you or I- but a genius. Edited by Jim Rosenthal |
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mmmm
New Member Joined: November 24 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Quote Reply Posted: November 24 2006 at 12:41am |
Madeleine's voice is great, but I didn't like her perfomance as well as other people have said. I have seen her in Barcelona. She sang very well, that's true, but it seemed she was singing the same way all the songs. the concert was quite short 1 h. 20 minutes (including two reprises). So, i think i prefer listening to her cd's than seing her live.
cheers, m |
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