Got You On My Mind": questions answered |
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Byron
New Member Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 23 |
Quote Reply Posted: June 30 2005 at 3:04pm |
Hah, You've got a lot of fight in you Doug. But believe me. I've been through all you speak of and more and still speak as I speak.These are the rules that ultimately work. Strangely enough the money and other things often follow. but if we don't get our heads right, there is no victory.
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Geoff
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doug
New Member Joined: June 26 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 21 |
Quote Reply Posted: June 30 2005 at 2:50pm |
Hey William, Here's some advice from someone who loves music and
art AND knows it's ultimately worth more than money or power AND is about to put two kids through college. If there's money owed you, go for the jugular. You can be sure Rounder Records would. Brian and Geoff, I wonder how above it all you'd be if you were getting screwed. |
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Byron
New Member Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 23 |
Quote Reply Posted: June 30 2005 at 2:24pm |
Thank you William.No teamwork here. just synchronicity.Think for a ,moment though. Would you as David slay Goliath with Madi riding on his shoulder? Would Madi slay you wantonly? That is the problem of war.( And court is often like war) Everyone gets slain.You just wrote a good, thoughtful, protest song about war.Don't be another proof of why it goes on. I don't say this in an empty pointless way. I believe there is somehow a way out of this that will save you both pain and later remorse.If you are going to try this here. Be willing to consider advice from those of us who love music and art and put the value of it way above money and power and things. You both need to look into your hearts. Let the buck stop here.Isn't that, after all, what you are both about? Making some sense for a world that so sorely needs it? Geoff
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Geoff
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willgalison
New Member Joined: April 22 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
Quote Reply Posted: June 30 2005 at 1:00pm |
PS: Do you guys work as a team?
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willgalison
New Member Joined: April 22 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
Quote Reply Posted: June 30 2005 at 12:59pm |
Dear Goeff,
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. If the parties in this dispute were all men and women of good good will, with an honest difference of opinion, then your suggestion would be right on. Unfortunately, I am out lawyered, out publicized, and out funded by about a million to one. So like David, who slew Goliath with a slingshot, i am using the tools at hand to defend myself and the rights of other musicians and indie labels. One of the tools at hand is this forum. By the way, I had no idea that you all were struggling to make sense out of my life. Let me know if you make any headway. (wink!) And thanks for acknowledging Madi's appreciation of me- its nice to hear. Best, William |
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willgalison
New Member Joined: April 22 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
Quote Reply Posted: June 30 2005 at 12:35pm |
Dear Brian,
Thanks for addressing real issues. Regarding publicity, of course i want to sell records, for my sake and Madi's and for the people who seem to be enjoying our CD. The sales I receive from visitors to this site are trivial compared to the total, so publicity is not my main reason for posting on this forum. I have made my reasons clear in other postings. As far as hanging on to Madeleine's coat-tails, I must disagree. Since recording GYOMM, I have recorded with stars such as Barbra Streisand and Carly Simon, who far exceed Madeleine in terms of popularity and prestige. Rest assured that my music career is beginning to flourish again without Madeleine, despite the huge legal costs, work and stress required to clear my name and sell our CD over the past two years. Insofar as I am proud to be the producer of GYOMM and co- artist, I will continue to try to sell it, and to the extent that Madeleine's contribution helps, that's wonderful, and she will be compensated. Rounder, of course, has invested untold money and effort (not to mention malice and deceipt) into exploiting Madelein'e talent for their own gain. At least I didn't step on anybody anybody to sell GYOMM. I do intend to "wring as much cash" from GYOMM as possible, because I am a professional musician (who has been forced to be a record company too) who earns my living that way. I offered Rounder the opportunity to wring cash out of GYOMM but they declined. I don't know what you do for a living, but I imagine you try to wring as much cash from it as you can. I also imagine that if someone tried to cheat you put of your income by accusing you of crimes, you would defend yourself with as much fervor as I. I know the "Lost and wondering Blues and Jazz Band" well, and played with Danny Fitzgerald (the founder of the group) on the streets of Paris when Madi was four years old. The problem with your comparison is that (as far as i know) Rounder and Greenberg didn't threaten the LAWBJB with criminal charges if they sold their CD's featuring Madi, or with physical abuse for that matter. Another diffference is that GYOMM is a stereophile quality CD with New York's top musicians that has licensing requests from all over the world and sterling reviews from the top jazz magazines, whereas Danny';s CD, as charming as it is, is simply not threatening to Rounder. I love Danny, but if you know him at all, you will know that he among the world's greatest hustlers and would exploit his connection wiith Madi for every penny it's worth if he could. As well he has the right to- he practically raised Madi and taught her much of what she knows. Also, I am no longer a busker. I have a high rent and many expenses to meet. I do not sell my CD's on the street. If I did, Rounder would not have tried to squash me. Re: your other comments: -$15000 was about what I spent on the original seven song version of GYOMM with provisional mixes and mastering. -$80,000 is about what I spent on the 11 song CD including state of the art mixing and mastering, packaging, printing, promotion etc. The number is actually higher now. All will be officially accounted for. -The "cost" of this legal battle is high, but I didn't start it, and the cost of giving on to these bullies would be higher. -I was already bitter and twisted before this whole Bruhaha, but I appreciate your concern on this point. -I offered Madi, Greenberg and Rounder a modest out of court settlement on two oc |
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Byron
New Member Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 23 |
Quote Reply Posted: June 30 2005 at 12:20pm |
Dear William, I have read your long letter with interest.I do not favor censorship.But I do give my personal opinion, which agrees with 'Cornishjazz' that this forum is a poor place to conduct , in effect, a courtroom scene.I always liked the bible quote that things should be done 'decently and in order' meaning that there is a place and time for everything but things do not mix well, helter-skelter. I know you are struggling, as we all are, to make sense out of your life. Things do not always tie up in neat packages, as all this is proving.I hope the actual courtroom scene, if there is one, can come at a truth as effective as Solomon's when he discovered thr true mother of the baby.Sometimes the truth is just that simple to come by.I would certainly wish , for both of you,that this could be settled quickly and fairly, by both your standards.I think very highly of Madeleine and I know you must be a special person, or she would not have cared for you as deeply as she has . Geoff
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Geoff
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cornishjazz
New Member Joined: April 06 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
Quote Reply Posted: June 30 2005 at 10:47am |
Dear William, It seems clear that you are keen to publicise GYOMM and that you have realised that frequent postings here will achieve a high number of sales.... no one can blame you for that. It does seem, however, that you are desperately "hanging on her coattails" (quote from your e-mail to the Valley Advocate to which you held exception) and intent to wring as much cash from this as possible rather than relying on your own (considerable talents) with which to make your way in the world. I don't even want to get into the discrepancies which appear in the differing accounts of this dispute which are linked to from the many posts here on this subject (investment of $15000 or was it $80,000 etc. etc.). I would merely contrast your actions with the actions of the 'Lost and Wandering Blues and Jazz Band' guys who, despite owning 2 albums with considerable content from Madeleine Peyroux, make no attempt to capitalise on this but are content to carry on busking their way around the world. - I saw them on the street in Copenhagen back in January and they were happily playing street pitches and selling an occasional CD (their latest, not the ones featuring Madeleine). You may profit financially form the Brou-ha-ha you seem intent on causing both here and in court but at what cost to you inside? I hope you don't end up bitter and twisted by it because it seems to me it might be a whole lot easier on you if you just agreed a modest out of court settlement and resumed your career. Anyway, I know it's none of my affair so I'll end with wishing you well. I hope you don't mind if I don't respond to any further postings from you but as I said in my earlier post (or words to that effect) I feel that this topic has run and run and deserves to be laid to rest. Best wishes for the future Brian |
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willgalison
New Member Joined: April 22 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 25 |
Quote Reply Posted: June 30 2005 at 9:33am |
Dear Geoff and Doug,
Well, that resolved nicely. I admire both of your ability to revise your opinions in light of new information. I must say Geoff, that it is surprising to see such an open- minded person endorsing censorship. Without new information, we can’t revise our opinions. It makes me wonder if you have followed the progess of this debate since its beginning. When Rich Hansen put up Madeleine’s website in 2003, it listed many of the dozens of gigs she played with me, reviews and photos of these concerts, and reviews of “Got You On My Mind’. It even offered GYOMM for sale. After Rounder took over the site there followed a long period where any mention of the album “Got You On My Mind” or the name “William Galison” were strictly forbidden on this site. This ban started well before any legal action was taken in my part, but after Madeleine's lawyer and Rounder had threatened to sue me and my business colleagues on false accusations of copyright infringement. (accusations they later admitted were false). The problem with denying the existence of me or GYOMM, was that many of the thousands of fans who were enjoying the album were baffled, frustrated and insulted that they could not discuss GYOMM, or the shows I played with Maderleine . As I understand it, it was Madeleine’s fans who convinced whoever was in charge of the site (?) that censoring any mention of GYOMM and WG would be perceived at best as meanspirited and hypocritical and at worst as implicative of foulplay. All of my postings have been in direct response to questions by Madeleine's fans. except my last postings which were in response to postings by "smooth". “smooth”, who has a direct personal interest in this subject, expressed her opinion that GYOMM and the efforts to destroy it were not worthy subjects for the forum, and i expressed mine. No one was the worse off for that spirited exchange. More generally, if you think that postings not directly complimentary of Madeleine’s music or behavior should be censored, certainly you would want Doug’s postings forbidden. That would be a big loss, because Madi can learn from his comments. Geoff, your comparison of recent postings to “sharks closing in for the kill” is inappropriate on several counts. For one thing, the fans that wrote them don’t have anything to do with each other, as far as I know. More importantly, I don’t think anyone here is bearing personal malice towards Madeleine. For my part, my lawsuit is primarily directed at Rounder Records and Jeffery Greenberg. Together, these two drafted a contract that misrepresented the ownership of GYOMM and made Madeleine responsible for any financial damages to Rounder caused by this misrepresentation- which are substantial. Even Greenberg, Madeleine and Rounder admit that SOMEBODY falsely told Rounder that Madeleine was the sole owner of GYOMM. The question is: did Madi lie to a naive Greenberg? Did Greenberg encourage Madeleine to lie to Rounder? Or did Rounder, Greenberg and Madeleine’s manager Cynthia Herbst come up with a plan to crush GYOMM and and make Madi the fall guy if they got caught? Likewise, in the libel case, Greenberg unquestionably published outrageously false and damaging statements about me. The question there is; did Madeleine give Greenberg false information, or did Greenberg encourage Madi to lie in order to intimidate me into surrendering GYOMM and to get her out of her agreement to tour GYOMM with me? This wi |
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Byron
New Member Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 23 |
Quote Reply Posted: June 29 2005 at 2:46pm |
Thanks Doug, you're a nice guy too. And one , like you, who asks questions, eventually gets answers.It would not be unlike Madi to give such a concert, to be honest. Follow up on her story, Doug. It's a wonderful one. A rich addition to my life, I know.
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Geoff
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