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angus
New Member Joined: October 28 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
Quote Reply Posted: November 01 2005 at 2:12pm |
A rotten fish won't stop stinking because you throw it in the closet.
There is only one way to stop this smell and that's to clean it up. That is the job of Ms. Peyroux, if she has the spiritual awareness to recognize that she is in league with dark and dangerous powers. It seems that she is a lost soul, guided by damned ones. |
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Byron
New Member Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 23 |
Quote Reply Posted: November 01 2005 at 10:50am |
There's something else going on here which smells a great deal like what we were treated to some months back for weeks at a time.I'll be happy if it doesn't spread. Geoff
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angus
New Member Joined: October 28 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
Quote Reply Posted: November 01 2005 at 3:51am |
Greg,
I've heard there's a wee operation that can make you feel like a pollen drunk bee all the time. Alison was saying that Careless Love is one of her favorite albums. She obviously doesn't object to the kind of music. It was MP's performance that ruined her day. A number of my mates had the same experience. Did you see her on the telly the week after? She looked and sounded like a drunk bee, but not on pollen. Getting back to Webster: Unctuous doesn not mean sensual, or pleasant or easy on the ear. That's not even in definition #5. Find me a definition that is anything but negative and I'll buy you a pint. Keep iin mind that that sentence was written by the same genius who wrote that MP plays bass (?) and that "heaven To Me" is a country song. I did a little research on the CD "Got You On My Mind" that Alison mentioned. Bought one in fact. Damn good. Not as "unctuous" as CL, so it may not be to your taste, but it most certainly exists. Let's see, if Dreamland is her first album, and Careless Love is her second.;;; Then gee, where does GYOMM fit in? And why do you suppose MP has been denying its existience? Funny business. I don't know the story on this Miss Peyroux, but there's something going on that smells....unctuous. Angus |
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Greg
New Member Joined: October 29 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
Quote Reply Posted: October 31 2005 at 5:01pm |
Thanks Angus for the reply - it is always good to hear differences of
opinion, although the little lesson in english was perhaps unecessary. I am sure Helen understands the meaning of the word (as do I). However, as I am sure you are aware the use of metaphor is always interesting and works quite well here - in my view there is a seemingly effortlessness to Madeline's delivery which I have always found very pleasing. Slick (a adjective / noun often associated with oil) is not necessarily a bad thing. Personally, I am not embarrased in the slightest to admit that I delight in 'sensual' music which is easy on the ear. Clearly it doesn't do it for you. BUT that is okay isn't it. I am still greatly looking forward to Wednesday night's show at the Glasgow Royal Concert Hall. I'll be quite happy to feel like a pollen drunk bee once again. Greg |
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angus
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Quote Reply Posted: October 31 2005 at 9:29am |
Obviously, either Helen Loughlin or Greg (or both) don't know what the
word "unctuousness" means. According to Webster's: One entry found for unctuous. Main Entry: unc·tu·ous Pronunciation: '&[ng](k)-ch&-w&s, -ch&s, -shw&s Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French or Medieval Latin; Middle French unctueux, from Medieval Latin unctuosus, from Latin unctus act of anointing, from unguere to anoint 1 a : FATTY, OILY b : smooth and greasy in texture or appearance 2 : PLASTIC <fine unctuous clay> 3 : full of unction; especially : revealing or marked by a smug, ingratiating, and false earnestness or spirituality - unc·tu·ous·ly adverb - unc·tu·ous·ness noun unc·tu·ous P P ronunciation Key (ngkch-s) adj. Characterized by affected, exaggerated, or insincere earnestness: “the unctuous, complacent court composer who is consumed with envy and self-loathing” (Rhoda Koenig). So Helen was essentially saying that Maddie delivered 90 minutes of 'smug, ingratiating, and false earnestness or spirituality" - "but in a good way!" Well, different strokes for different folks. Personally, I prefer my false earnestness a little less smug. Angus Edited by angus |
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Greg
New Member Joined: October 29 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
Quote Reply Posted: October 29 2005 at 5:12pm |
Angus
This is interesting too ... "after 90 minutes of relentlessly sensual unctuousness, you feel slightly like a pollen-drunk bee" Helen Loughlin's review of the same show that Alison Kerr seemed so displeased by! (See Loughlin's article of Madeleine's Edinburgh show in the Assembly Rooms). Sruely this all goes to show that it really is all a matter of opinion. I caught the show at The Assembly rooms and was enchanted! This young woman's voice can really trascend you into your own heavenly sphere where you momentarily can get lost. What works for some of us - clearly doesn't work for others. There were a couple of songs which weren't quite as compelling as others, but overall, I found her a completely engaging performer with very few airs and graces! She did it for me and in a startingly simple way she was entrancing. I am really looking forward to the upcoming Galsgow show. Cheers - Greg. (READ Helen's review) HELEN LOUGHLIN Madeleine Peyroux Assembly Hall ** TO call Madeleine Peyroux a new star is to do an injustice to her 1996 debut Dreamland. Released when Peyroux was just 22, Dreamland sold an admirable 200,000 copies worldwide. There was a hiatus of eight years before she released Careless Love last year. This was Peyroux's only Edinburgh show. Both were worth waiting for. Vocal comparisons to Billie Holiday, while flattering, are an easy way to classify Peyroux's sound. Her work, however, is difficult to categorise, as interpretations of classic jazz (Josephine Baker) sit alongside versions of songs by Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen and Hank Williams. No style is left undone - blues, jazz, chansons, country. But it's Peyroux's stunning alto that delivers the unique experience. "Honeyed tones" is such an overused cliche, but in Peyroux's case completely apt - after 90 minutes of relentlessly sensual unctuousness, you feel slightly like a pollen-drunk bee. But in a good way. Peyroux and her back-up band launched straight into a stonking version of Leonard Cohen's Dance Me to the End of Love. Peyroux also plays bass and acoustic guitar and is backed-up by piano, drums and double bass. In a venue like the Assembly Hall, you can kid yourself that you're in a smoky club in the Quartier Latin. Peyroux, still only 31, cut her musical teeth performing on the streets and in the small clubs of Paris before touring Europe with various bands. She certainly learnt her craft and has made her version of Dylan's You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go her own. Equally, Josephine Baker's 1930s' J'ai Deux Amours, Mon Pays et Paris (I have two loves - my country and Paris), becomes completely Peyroux's, both musically and culturally. But it was her rendition of a haunting 1940s country song that summed up this divine show - This Is Heaven To Me. It was the performance of a star in the ascendant. http://www.edinburgh-festivals.com/reviews.cfm?id=1751522005 |
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angus
New Member Joined: October 28 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
Quote Reply Posted: October 28 2005 at 7:19am |
From the Scotland Herald
by Alison Kerr Jazz Corr IT is unusual that I can mention a favourite record and watch a wave of recognition cross my friends¹ faces. Not since my teens have I had to kick myself for missing Top of the Pops. Such is the lot of the jazz fan. Rarely, too, have I anticipated a concert as much as the Fringe show I attended this summer and never before has my review been reprinted in a news story. Yet all these things happened this year because of one unusual singer and guitarist Madeleine Peyroux. Peyroux, for anyone who hasn¹t yet heard Careless Love, her beguiling album, or read the news stories about her supposed disappearance just as she hit No 7 in the charts, is a 32-year-old American who was discovered busking in 1996. She landed a record deal, released the well-received Dreamland, and disappeared only to resurface last winter with a ³comeback² album that made her the most talked-about singer of 2005. With her languid yet fragile vocals, which bear a startling resemblance to Billie Holiday¹s, and the unusual, folksy feel of her music, Peyroux seemed to be a throwback to an earlier, less commercial era. Add to the mix her self-imposed withdrawal from the public eye and her ongoing love of busking, and she appeared to be the real deal: a musician for whom making music, not fame and fortune, was the main motivation. Peyroux, a quirky character who ran off with street musicians in Paris as a teenager and threw away her first chance at fame when she realised ³it wasn¹t really something I could handle², had an authentic air about her. When I interviewed her, back in June, I found her easy to chat with, as we shared interests in old movies (Mr Smith Goes to Washington is one of her favourites, though she struggled to remember its title), classic jazz (she loves Fats Waller and, of course, Billie Holiday) and Paris. Perhaps she was a little unfocused, but her southern drawl and pauses to smoke seemed to explain the laid-back pace of her speech, and her slow responses to questions. After the interview, I happened upon a story about her ex-lover and musical partner, harmonica player William Galison, with whom she is embroiled in a legal wrangle over a CD. Got You On My Mind, recorded in 2003 (and guest-starring Carly Simon), has been dismissed as a demo by Peyroux¹s record company, Rounder Records. They have accused Galison of trying to cash in on Peyroux¹s success, and have threatened anyone who distributes it with legal action. This was the first inkling I had that all was not as Ms Peyroux¹s ³people² at Universal, which has leased the CD from Rounder Records, had suggested. Peyroux herself had told me that she had had several abandoned attempts at a second record during the seven-year period which her press people cloak in a veil of mystery. Galison, who has alluded in his legal correspondence to her ³history of attempted suicide², met her when she was playing in a New York bar in 2002, and she popped up as a sideman to the trumpeter Peter Ecklund on his CD Gigs, on the Arbors label. So, if she was really lost, it was only because nobody was looking for her. For Peyroux¹s Scottish debut at the Fringe in August, I invited along a jazz musician who had played on the same Ecklund session, and who was intrigued by the young singer¹s sudden celebrity. Neither of us could believe what we heard that night. It was excruciating. Our jaws dropped as we struggled to reconcile the strangulated sounds from the stage with the sublime singing on the CDs. Madeleine Peyroux the live performer sounded like a tone-deaf geriatric |
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